Uncover the revolutionary potential of exosomes in true cellular regeneration and anti-aging. Regenerative medicine pioneer, Dr. Ed Park, joins us to share his nearly two decades of experience with these powerful cell-signaling molecules. Dr. Park explains what exosomes are—tiny messages that trick old cells into thinking they are young again—and how they are used locally for injuries like a torn meniscus, or systemically for autoimmune issues and brain health, even helping with cognition. He also reveals his personal secret to reversing his own aging curve: the telomerase activator TA-65, discussing its immediate effects on sleep, energy, and the long-term benefits he’s seen on fatty liver and hair graying. Learn about the future of this biohacking technology, treatment costs, and how to navigate the complex world of regenerative medicine.
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Age In Reverse With Exosomes: Regenerative Medicine Secrets With Dr. Ed Park
Our guest is a true pioneer at the intersection of biology and healing. Dr. Ed Park is a Harvard-trained physician. He’s the author of EXOSOMES: Songs of Healing, and is one of the world’s leading experts in regenerative medicine. Years ago, Dr. Park began a remarkable journey in the Los Angeles area that has expanded to over 6 states, with 3,300 treatments, hundreds of patients transformed, including his own 88-year-old mother, who’s still driving and thriving after more than 40 exosome treatments herself.
In this conversation, we’ll explore the incredible world of exosomes, these tiny cellular messengers that may hold the key to reversing aging, restoring vitality, and even unlocking the body’s natural ability to heal itself. We’ll talk about the real science behind the results, the connection between stem cells, telomeres, and longevity, and what this emerging field can mean for the future of aging and for anyone who wants to feel fully alive at every stage of life. Let’s dive in. Here’s my conversation with Dr. Ed Park.
Dr. Park, thank you so much for joining us. It’s a privilege and an honor to have someone with your level of expertise and experience. I’m excited to learn from you myself. I’m excited for our audience to learn from you. Thank you so much for joining us.
My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
Dr. Park’s Genesis: From OBGYN To Telomere Activation
I’m excited to dive into all things exosomes and telomerase activation, but I’d love to start with a little bit of your story. I always find that so interesting. You’ve been pioneering regenerative medicine in the LA area, and I know in other states as well, for over eight years. Maybe you could share a little bit about what led you down this path toward stem cell exosome therapy. How did you get into the work that you’re doing?
Many years ago, my dad was diagnosed with brain cancer, so I Googled, “Why do people get old?” He struggled with that. During that time, I had the rebirth of my career. I decided, “I’ve been at OB/GYN for seventeen years. I know how to do that. It’s not that interesting. Maybe I’ll be a screenwriter.” I started exploring screenwriting and spent a lot of time with that. I won a couple of Houston Film Festival Awards.
The conclusion that came to me as a layperson, and this was before AI, was that telomeres were involved. I came to that conclusion because if you look at the premature aging syndromes, any of the three elements that cause the elongation of telomeres, which are the ends of chromosomes, will give you premature aging. I wrote a sci-fi thing about that.
That year, in 7-7 of ‘07, which was many years ago, a company came out and said, “We have a telomerase activator.” I looked at it. I looked at the patent and the science, and I was like, “I’ll try it.” Indeed, for me, it made me lose fifteen pounds without diet or exercise. I came out of fatty liver. I was having reading glasses and gray hair at 40. At 58, I don’t have any of that. It has flattened my aging curve, which is fascinating.
I’ve written books, done blogs and lectures, and been invited as a speaker. That’s what I got interested in. I self-published Telomere Timebombs, and then Hay House paid me to write The Telomere Miracle. This explains how, with regular practices based on the science, we can turn on that telomerase. For me, I cheat. Every night, for the last couple of years, I take a supplement that will turn on the telomerase. That has kept the reading glasses and the gray hair away. That’s my story.
A few years ago, I started doing exosomes on myself, my friends, and my family. That has the ability to turn back the clock. It tricks the cells into thinking they’re young again, so they copy, reproduce, and regenerate. That’s good for stuff like musculoskeletal, but even nerve damage. I’ll be doing a live webinar on nerve damage. We have 2 out of 3 of the pieces of the puzzle. The other part is destroying old cells, which is a Faustian bargain. If you destroy cells, do you have any good ones to replace them?
Exosomes really have the ability to turn back the clock. They actually trick the cells into thinking they’re young again, so they copy, reproduce, and regenerate.
The last thing is banking. My son and I went to Costa Rica to a clinic that people go to. You can store your own stem cells. They’ll give you an IV, and they’ll boost out the release of cells and freeze them for eternity. If he pays $800 a year, he can store them. One hundred years from now, he can go back to Costa Rica and get his cells, the original copy. We’re looking at this not as science fiction, but as a hack. How do we hack the aging process?
Exosomes 101: Decoding The Cellular Communication Tools
That’s so fascinating. I want to unpack each of these things a little bit with you. You have amazing expertise in a lot of different areas, even screenwriting, which I didn’t know about. We’ve had some other stem cell experts and physicians that are using different types of stem cell therapies on the show in the past. You’re an expert on exosomes. For people who are learning about that for the first time, how would you describe what they are and why they matter in simple terms?
The best way is for them to pick up a book, EXOSOMES: Songs of Healing. In 2025, I went to two conferences. One was an exosome conference in Vienna, and one was a stem cell conference in Hong Kong. Even in these fields, the people with the exosomes understand this is how cells communicate. It’s less than 200 nanometers. You can’t see it. When I melt an exosome vial, it’s clear. No light microscope can see them. They’re very tiny, 1/500th the diameter of a real cell with machinery, DNA, and self-antigens.
The cells have the self-antigen. That tells Zach from Ed. If I take your cells, my immune system will kill them within a few days. During those few days, they’ll secrete a bunch of exosomes, which can have great benefits for knee arthritis and nerve regeneration. The bottom line is, when you get injured by a paper cut or get hit by a Mack truck, your body creates all this inflammation. The stem cells come, and they try to shut down and regenerate by secreting exosomes.
Instead of my 58-year-old exosomes healing my paper cut, I can take some from a newborn baby’s placenta, and the signals and the potency are much higher. Exosomes are the songs inside these hundred-nanometer spheres that mainly block some mRNA proteins. You don’t need the musicians. You don’t need the cells that can actively produce the exosomes.
They’re communication tools.
All plants, animals, and even raw milk have exosomes in them. It’s how cells communicate, but until a couple of years ago, nobody knew that. It’s a new field.
All plants and animals—everything, even raw milk—has exosomes in it. It’s how cells communicate.
I know you take them from the placental tissue after a baby has been delivered. How do you extract the exosomes from the stem cells?
I don’t do it, but there are many ways to do it. In the early literature, they used to spin them in a mega-high-gravity centrifuge, but that causes them to mash together and degenerate. Now, the preferred method is called tangential flow filtration. Think of it like rolling coins over a grate in the street. Only the small stuff will fall through. Then, they do that in reverse. They’ll exclude stuff that’s too big, and they’ll exclude stuff that’s too small.
It’s not all exosomes. Sometimes, it’s schmutz and debris. If you’re in this narrow range of about 50 to 180 nanometers, then you’ll have a higher concentration of pure exosomes. It’s in the bathwater. When you grow a cell and stress it out, it automatically secretes this stuff. Some of the companies save money by not filtering it. If you’re getting the pure filtered stuff, that’s what it is. It’s a size exclusion and inclusion.
Regenerating Joints: Local Exosome Injections For Torn Meniscus
You can take that secretome or that fluid and inject it into someone who has a torn meniscus or something like that. You can inject it locally. What kind of results have you seen?
It’s all anecdotal. We’d love to see FDA approval. There are about a dozen trials going through, but there’s an intellectual property issue that we don’t know about. Can someone own milk or blood? I don’t know. For example, when I first started doing this years ago, I did my right meniscus, which was clicking and painful. I don’t do a lot of sports, so it hasn’t re-injured. That’s one case. My twenty-year-old tore his meniscus badly. We healed it with a shot.
You do see those results, but it’s not for everyone. It is how your body naturally heals. It stands to reason if you take it from a newborn baby source. This is ethically sourced. She delivered a C-section pre-COVID in a sterile environment. There’s no placenta. They extracted and made hundreds of vials. Every two months, they renew the batch. The premise of what we’re doing is biohacking. It’s nothing esoteric or some single molecule approved by Roche or Pfizer. It comes from a newborn source like milk or blood. It’s very potent in regeneration.
Even a fully torn meniscus, for example, can be regenerated.
I can’t sit here and say that, but that’s been my experience. The meniscus is a very poorly vascularized space. I got a consult from one of the physicians. I train physicians online and sometimes do in-house training. He’s an orthopedic surgeon who is very open-minded. In their literature, they know it should help. Why not? It’s bad for business. He asked me, “I do a lot of proteins and peptides during my surgery. Would you do this?” He’ll be surprised when he opens his email. I said, “No, I wouldn’t do it because exosomes inhibit antibody production. That’s why they’re so good for autoimmune disease.”
Exosomes inhibit antibiotic production, which is why they are so good for autoimmune disease.
Orthopods wear spacesuits because of the risk of infection, and they have negative-pressure rooms. I said to him, “Due to the increased bacterial risk and the poor vascularization, if you’re taking out bone spurs or doing something in a hip joint, I would not use them for at least ten days. You need the first ten days of inflammation for the bactericidal or bacterial killing action of the body to clear the infection.” Despite the spacesuit and the negative-pressure room, the infectious risk is terrible and scary. I said to him, “If you start at 10 days IV, it’ll go to an inflammation site, or you can do it in the joint after 10 days, but I wouldn’t do it for 10 days.”
I know there’s a local where you’re injected, like for your son’s torn meniscus, for example, versus an IV systemic treatment of exosomes. Can you explain the difference?
Yeah. He had torn his meniscus four months earlier, so it wasn’t that inflamed. It was like a loose hangnail, clicking and hurting. I had to put it right into the knee joint where the meniscus lives. I’ll never forget this lady. She came to me. She’d fallen off a horse three weeks prior in Tulum. Her X-ray showed five fractured vertebrae. She was in a lot of pain.
She was afraid of an epidural. I go, “It’s probably better to put it in an epidural because it’ll get closer to the bones.” She said, “No.” She was right with the IV. Due to the inflammation, the exosomes honed in along with the blood flow and the white blood cells right to the injury. Within two weeks, she was completely normal. She was in the gym and was fine. In the setting of acute inflammation, they home very well to where they’re needed.
You mentioned before that they only live in your body for a few days. They’re coming from somebody else, but they’re signaling to your own cells.
Let’s be clear. If I go to Panama and buy some stem cells, and they put them in me, my immune system will see what’s on the surface, the major histocompatibility antigens. When you get a liver transplant, you need to take immunosuppressants for life. In this case, you don’t have to because the exosomes have no self-identifying antigens. If it goes to Ed or Zach from this newborn baby, our body doesn’t know it didn’t make them like a newborn baby. They’re so small. The body doesn’t waste self-identification on these tiny little messages.
Systemic Benefits: Exosomes For Autoimmune Disease And Cognition
You also mentioned things like autoimmune. I know there are tons of other applications and potential things that you can treat with exosome therapy. You told me you’ve done over 3,300 of these types of treatments. Can you tell us some of the other types of things that some of your patients have come to you seeking help for?
It’s a range. I practice in six states. I practice in Cali, where I live, Utah, New York, Florida, Texas, and Hawaii. For example, in Miami, I’ll be seeing a repeat facial rejuvenation. She has amazing photos she took. It helped her. In Texas, one lady was going to come. She had a stroke, and it has helped her recover a lot of her function. It was a partial stroke. Another guy had a hip revision. The doctor went in there arthroscopically and set it down. We’re trying to regrow some of the cartilage surfaces.
About 50% of our patients are repeat. You help them, and they want a different area, or they still need some work. One of the most common things we do is IV for autoimmune. That seems to suppress the autoimmune production for at least a few months. We do joints and nasal. Nasal can get up through the olfactory nerves to the brain. It helps people’s cognition sometimes, and then their mood as well.
What if people have Alzheimer’s, dementia, or MCI?
It can move the needle. I’m not going to sit here and say it’s going to make you normal, but it does help. Even my son, a few years ago, took a nasal shot, and it shifted his presence. He was very anxious about this, that, and the other, and it grounded him. It can help. I have one friend who’s an alcoholic, and he stopped drinking for a month. It was crazy.
It reduces neuroinflammation, but better than that, it can sometimes regenerate. That’s nice when you have certain things like double vision. I’ve seen tinnitus get better a lot of times. A 70-year-old woman will be like, “I like reading again. I couldn’t read.” It can upgrade the brain at times. Dave Asprey has done it three times already. He’s the ultimate biohacker. He likes it.
Can you tell us about who makes a good candidate? You’ve seen hundreds of patients across six states. How do you determine who is a good candidate for exosome therapy? It sounds like any of us could benefit from it.
If money were no object, people should be taking this all the time for aging and health. Who is not a good candidate? Let’s start with that. It is somebody who has unrealistic expectations and for whom spending a couple of thousand dollars would be life-changing for them. If you’re living in chronic pain and there’s something we can do about it, maybe it is worth it.
I’ll never forget. I treated this guy. He was the CEO and owner of a company. He was probably worth $40 million. We did his shoulder, and he goes, “It’s only 25% better.” He was 78 years old. I’m like, “If it’s 25% better, maybe you should repeat it.” He’s like, “It didn’t work.” It’s all about attribution. If you live in a way where the glass is only 25% full, this is not a good candidate for me. The minute you touch them, it’s like, “I washed your car. Your car should stay clean for life.” You’re out there. Maybe you’re playing pickleball or running up hills. How am I going to be able to prevent that from breaking down again with one treatment?
If you’re still doing those same activities that caused the inflammation or the damage in the first place.
For me, I haven’t done my meniscus again because I don’t run. I don’t do any exercise. I haven’t been skiing a lot. There’s no reason for me to injure it. Some of these people are running up hills. They’re doing sprints, high-intensity workouts, and pickleball. Somebody who thinks that one treatment should prevent them from ever getting injured again, that’s not a good case.
Longevity & Prevention: Optimizing Health With Anti-Aging Exosomes
What about the preventative side of things? I know this has significant longevity and anti-aging benefits. Can you talk about some of those and some of your patients who use this as a preventative or to optimize?
For sure. There’s one guy. I’ll never forget him. He’s the son of the Governor of Hawaii. He had bad knees, like pre-op for replacement at 63. His pain went away after the first treatment. He did stem cells on one side and exosomes as a test. It was an AB test. Only the exosome side got better. Since I gave it to him for a friend and family price, he came back four more times. He was smart about it. He was like, “If the brake pad went from 2 to 3 millimeters, maybe it’ll go 3 to 4 to 5.” He is the kind of guy who kicks a heavy bag, is a martial artist, and runs up a 30-degree hill. He’s aggro with his knees. That’s pretty smart.
I have a guy in Marin who’s done fifteen treatments. His erectile function came back after six years, and he’s growing black hair all the way up to his head. His gardener was making fun of him, like, “You’re tying your hair.” He goes, “Come here. Look. The black is in the roots, not in the tips.” He’s like, “What’s going on there?” He likes that.
Once you get the gist of it that it’s causing cellular rejuvenation, then you’re like, “I want more.” Not everyone gets that or believes that. I’ve had a 93-year-old woman who’s growing her eyebrows in black, but she got treated for long COVID, so that was an inadvertent side effect. Even before that, in the days of telomerase activation, when I had only that, I had a 112-year-old lady grow black hairs by taking the TA-65. When you see this, and you understand that aging shows up as hair loss, joint brittleness, cartilage destruction, and arthritis, and you start to see a reversal of that, then your whole perspective changes.
That’s amazing. You mentioned a 112-year-old that you treated. How much longer did she live?
She lived two more years.
That’s amazing. You mentioned to me when we talked previously that your mom is 88 and still using this. She’s done some treatments as well.
She’s a junkie. Yeah. She uses Sparkle, which is a good way to use it. Anytime something ends up hurting, we inject where it hurts, and it usually goes away. Having access to that has been a blessing for her because she’s actively driving back and forth to the casino and playing her slots. She says to me, “Why does my wrist hurt and my Achilles?” I’m like, “It’s because you’re hitting the slot machine 100,000 times a week. You don’t use cruise control and drive very jerkily.” She’s an old Asian woman, so it’s a triple whammy. She’s tweaking her Achilles.
That’s great. Can you tell us how much people are spending on these treatments?
It can vary. It’s purely a function of what I have to pay because that’s the main expense. For me, I don’t charge per procedure like some places. If you need 2 or 3 spots, I’ll do 2 or 3 spots. If you have a tendon nodule or something, maybe $500. If you have a rotten tooth, we could do that and try to save the tooth. Usually, up to $6,000 would be the triple strength that you usually can get a couple of treatments out of.
I’ve had people do more, and more is more. They start to feel the pricing. It depends. I would say it would average about $2,500 to $3,000, which compares favorably to stem cells because they’re usually $6,000 to $9,000 and a trip to Latin America. You can get them in the U.S. It’s arguable whether it’s legal. It’s a gray area.
The Future Of Medicine: Regulation, Cost, And Accessibility
That’s significantly less than most of the stem cell treatments that I’ve heard about. When you think about the future of medicine, what you’re doing seems cutting-edge. It seems sci-fi, but it’s not. Do you see this as the future of medicine? Part B of that question is that you’re 58 now. When you’re 90, what do you imagine your body, your mind, and your life will look like? What will that be like? What do you think is possible? What’s on the horizon?
These are way above my pay grade, these questions. The problem is that the Food and Drug Administration is not regulating medicine. It regulates foods and drugs. They have very little expertise in regenerative medicine. They use old statutes to apply to this. Whereas a few years ago, they were punitive in trying to shut everyone down. Now that there are twelve trials and the checks are being cashed, they’ll go with it.
The problem is the Food and Drug Administration is not regulating medicine. It’s regulating foods and drugs, so they have very little expertise in regenerative medicine.
The reason I say it’s above my pay grade is the question of intellectual property. Is it a process patent? Is it a use patent? It’s not an invention by anyone but Mother Nature. Who knows what the future will hold in terms of that? I think the tides have been coming in a little bit. Florida passed a stem cell law. Utah has been very favorable. There was a right-to-try provision.
Historically, doctors have an ethical right and responsibility to inform and consent our patients. I can recommend that you drink cat poop coffee. That doesn’t make me a good doctor, but as long as you’re informed, then it’s okay. There’s a gray area where there’s some collaboration with the FTC, the FDA, and the medical boards, so it’s like whack-a-mole. We don’t know if this will be available.
We can say for certain that the rich will always have access somehow, as they did during the time of illegal abortion. The question speaks to who benefits. Cui bono. There are some doctors who benefit, as well as manufacturers and distributors. Patients benefit, but that’s where the disconnect is. Patients naively think, “If it’s good, why doesn’t the FDA approve it?” That’s not how the system is.
As more and more people utilize this technology, do you believe the cost will continue to go down and become more accessible?
Within the space, there were twenty manufacturers. Probably seven of them have gone under. As far as scale, there are only about 4 or 5 that have manufacturing scale. I’ve chosen to stick with the original ones that came to market years ago. I’m picking up at their facility. They have 30,000 square feet, 44 employees, and 6 PhDs. There’s a critical mass.
I remember I was walking in Vienna, and I met a guy who used to have one of these companies. He did very well with their marketing. Now, he’s doing freeze-dried skin cream because it’s much easier to protect yourself. I remember Googling him a few years ago because he was doing good business. It was in a strip mall in Orange County, next to a check-cashing and a laundromat. I’m like, “How high can the quality be in a kitchenette like that?” You’re only as good as your worst batch in this field. That’s what it’s all about for me. It’s the critical mass of safety.
You’re only as good as your worst batch in this field.
Dr. Park’s Secret: Using TA-65 To Reverse Your Aging Curve
This is amazing. I love the results that you’re having and the way you’re transforming people’s lives with this treatment. Can we shift gears? I’d love to dive into the TA-65. You mentioned at the beginning of our conversation that you went from starting to get some gray hair and needing reading glasses, and seventeen years later, you have zero gray hair and don’t need reading glasses.
I have gray hair.
Tell us about TA-65 and how you’ve used that to slow and even reverse your age.
In this book, you can see me aging over eighteen years. Go to my site, RechargeBiomedical.com, to see it. The premise is quite simple. When you do things like sleep well, exercise, and have a good mindset, there are these soft science studies showing that telomerase is more active. Telomerase is the enzyme that re-lengthens the candle wicks or the firecracker fuses. Every time a cell divides, they have to shorten. It’s a mechanical fact.
Stem cells have two qualities. They can transiently activate telomerase to re-lengthen those fuses and divide asymmetrically, which means that the mom makes a copy of the mom and a daughter. That’s the two things that characterize stem-ness. I have no data other than the fact that I don’t have reading glasses. I used to have to hold the menu like this. I could still read like this. That means that my lens is still rubbery. It’s not like an old gummy bear that’s hard.
Rarely, I might pluck a hair on the top. My chin has been very gray. If I don’t usually spend money on myself on exosomes, maybe that would help, knowing that there are tools. You asked the question. I don’t know if I’ll be here at 90. I don’t know if any of us will be here at 90, but I know I have tools if I want to spend the money where I can mitigate some of these problems. If I go out and mess up my knee tomorrow, I can do something about it. It’s nice.
It would be nice if we had more access. It would be nice if the economies of scale brought the price down. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in the space who have offered more for less. The weird thing that people have a hard time understanding about this is that you can’t count an exosome. It’s crazy. If you go to the gas station and pump 87 octane fuel, there’s a little seal that looks official. Someone has measured it, and it’s 87 octane. You’re not getting ethanol or vinegar. You’re getting gas.
In the exosome space, you cannot measure or even see them. You can’t count them. People can walk up to you and say, “I got two times the exosomes for half the price.” The doctors have been, a lot of times, believing that because they want to believe that, but there’s nobody who can measure them. It all has to do with esoteric techniques.
I remember I had a friend of mine who trained me in stem cells. She sent a vial of our exosomes to a lab, and they said, “There’s nothing in here but normal saline, which was true.” Do you know the supermarket toy bubbles? If you send them to a lab and you don’t tell them, “You need to crack open the bubble somehow,” then they’ll be normal saline, which is what they’re suspended in. There’s a step that they didn’t know at the lab that you need to melt the bubbles with soap and then see how much RNA is in them.
The lab I use does that. There is some batch-to-batch quality control of potency. Most people look at you like you’re crazy. They don’t know and don’t care. They sell the secretome. They’re selling bath water. They don’t bother filtering it. They think it’s great. Multiple donors, even better. They’ll say stuff like, “The more donors you have, the less risk of infection, which makes no sense.” It’s not true in sexual relations. It’s not true in donations of stem cells. There are a lot of people who are in it for the money, and they don’t care to understand the science. It’s a lot of Buyer, Beware out there.
How Fast Does TA-65 Work? Immediate Effects And Long-Term Results
I’m curious, too. When you start taking TA-65, for example, how long should someone take that before they anticipate seeing results?
It’s immediate. When you take it, your dreams are very vivid. You have middle-of-the-night awakenings. If you’ve had a lot to drink the night before, you wake up without a hangover. It’s real-time. It’s a molecule that looks like vitamin D or steroids. It works on what we call the MAPK pathway, which is a signaling pathway. There are heuristics. You can feel the effect immediately.
On days when I forget to take it or don’t take it, I’ll wake up a day older and feeling groggy. If you take it every day, it’s like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. It’s the same day. You feel it right away. The effect, for me, of losing my visceral fat took three months, but no diet or exercise has caused a catastrophic extinction event. That was enough to shift me out of metabolic syndrome and get rid of the fatty liver and high blood pressure. Results may vary. That was just me.
That’s amazing. You can take a supplement. Is it a supplement? Is it a nutraceutical kind of stuff?
Yeah. It doesn’t interact with other things. It’s not even psychotropic at all. You don’t get high. You don’t get low. You don’t get speedy. You don’t get sleepy. It enhances whatever. That is why I figured out years ago why you wake up every 90 minutes. Everything that’s going on in sleep, whether it be regeneration or making brain cells for new memories, but even the 90-minute sprinkler system that wakes everyone up every 90 minutes, even that’s more efficient. You get higher quality rest. It’s good for jet lag and circadian rhythm.
One of the weird side effects is that every human who has ever lived wakes up every 90 minutes. They don’t know that unless it’s cold, or their partner’s snoring, or they have to pee. Even the wake-up is so much more efficient. You’re like, “It’s 3:00. Why am I so awake? It’s bizarre.” If you know that’s coming, you can be asleep in eight seconds. Everything is more efficient. It’s healing the body and the mind. Generally, for people who dream, it’s very vivid. You can feel it right away, even at a low dose.
With exosomes, everything is more efficient. It’s healing the body and the mind and the dreams are very vivid. You can feel it right away, even at a low dose.
There’s a way to buy that through your website as well, right?
Yeah. RechargeBiomedical.com. If they use the promo recharge10, they get 10 % off. I give special instructions, too. I differed from the company or the manufacturer years ago. I was like, “This looks a lot like vitamin D.” It’s called an amphiphilic molecule. It’s part fat and part water-soluble. For those things, you need a little bile. I always tell people not take it on an empty stomach, as the manufacturer says. Take it with a little snack because the bile will help to absorb it. They said, “Take it in the morning.” I said, “Take it at night because your body’s healing at night. You’ll notice the dreams. You’ll know it’s working if you take it at night.”
It’s not super expensive. It’s about maybe $100 for a month.
It could be super expensive. I take two a night. That could be a lot, but I get a wholesale price. Interestingly, the original patent studies many years ago, and even the scientific research papers, which there are probably ten, suggest that it’s not dose-dependent. Even a small 10 milligram dose had an even more significant effect on the telomeres than the 25 or higher doses.
You’ll feel it. If people want to buy a $100 bottle and keep it in their medicine cabinet, after a bad workout, a slight injury, or a bender on a weekend, they can take it like aspirin. Although aspirin is bad for you, this is quite good for you. If you’re looking for health and maintenance, then maybe that would be fine. I have plenty of people who take ten milligrams. For my lifestyle and body, I choose to take 50 milligrams. I was the nineteenth person to take it. Even in the early days, they started at 10 milligrams, and they doubled to 20, 50, and then 100. It’s not necessarily dose-dependent, the results.
If someone’s starting out, they can start with ten.
Most people feel better taking more, but it is toxic to your wallet.
If you’re slowing or reversing the aging process. We did have Dr. Bill Andrews from Sierra Sciences on our show. He did a deep dive into telomerase and telomeres with us.
I know Bill quite well. He’s been involved for decades.
He used the metaphor of a ride ticket. You only have so many ride tickets. Every time your cells replicate, you use one. This is one of the hallmarks of aging. You’ve talked about stem cell exhaustion and telomere shortening.
They’re the same thing. If you look at this Dutch lady who died a few years ago at 114, they looked at her immune cells. You and I should have 10,000 different kinds of combinations of blank keys that the immune system’s ready to respond to. She only had two, which proves the point that stem cell exhaustion is a one-way trip. We start as one stem cell, the fertilized egg. In the end, we have very few. Her blood showed that she was nothing special. She was the last person with a chair in musical chairs.
Indeed, within the microcosm of her body, she only had 2 out of 10,000 immune cells left, if you will. Clonal variants, they call them. That shows you that’s happening in your bone marrow, producing blood cells. It’s happening in your brain. It’s happening in your joint cartilage. Most people don’t realize that even the extremely elderly make new brain cells every night, thousands of them. That’s part of how the declarative memory system works in the hippocampus.
All these things that we’re taught in med school and believe in life are questionable. It’s on a continuum. What isn’t questionable is that we’re all getting older, and that stem cells are depleting by differentiation, epigenetic gene silencing, and depletion. If you want to understand the theory, an eighth grader could understand it. Pick up one of my books.
Hopefully, there are some changes coming that will make it possible for all of us to live healthier for longer and enjoy the beautiful creation that we’ve been given to steward.
It’s crazy. I went to this thing called Abundance. It’s the Peter Diamandis thing. I’m a lower-middle-class guy, hanging out here, and I’m listening to these founders of AI, robotics, and killing machines. The feeling there was not one of abundance, in my opinion. No hate to the organization because it’s a great organization, but it was of scarcity.
Most of the people who are venture capitalists are looking for the next big alpha move. They’re like, “Where do I invest my money to make more money?” You feel the scarcity among people who are rich, but not super-rich. It’s the people worth between $5 million and $50 million that are struggling with their existential reason for living. They have these rooms where they’re talking about the useless eaters and how to control public opinion. It’s like Bonville vibes, to be honest. I’m not sure I’ll go back. I’m not sure I can afford to go back.
I feel like when you look at it from a higher level, everyone in governance and everyone in these boardrooms, all their motivation is to control. No one’s talking about helping people thrive, be happy, afford their rent, or afford their kids. At the stem cell conference, they’re talking about making kids without parents. It was crazy. I’m like, “Maybe that’s good. Maybe that’s better. If McDonald’s, Walmart, or Japan has corporate kids, let’s at least have the debate.” The scary thing is when you get in these spaces, and you overhear the casual elitism, you’re like, “This is some weird stuff.” People think they can decide who gets to have kids, who gets to thrive, and who needs to die. It’s crazy.
Plenty of challenges.
Sorry, I don’t know what’s in my coffee.
Connect With Dr. Park: Books, Website, And Exclusive Content
No, it was great. This is super fascinating. I’m so grateful for the amazing work that you’re doing. You’re one of the pioneers in this regenerative space. Where can people connect with you? You mentioned your books. Can you share those with us?
Yeah. EXOSOMES: Songs of Healing on Amazon. It’s also an audiobook. I think I’ll stop printing it, but The Telomere Miracle. It’s $20. It’ll teach you all the regular stuff, like breathing, sleeping, and diet. The original book was Telomere Timebombs. This is my stem cell theory of aging and my crazy life story.
They can go to RechargeBiomedical.com. They can go to the YouTube channel, @DrPark65. I have a podcast that I’ve been doing. I have 26 podcasts with different experts in different fields. I also have a Substack with exclusive content. That’s @DrEdPark. I’d love to connect. I rant like this weekly on my newsletter. If that’s your style, then you might enjoy that.
Thanks for sharing all that. I’ve listened to some of your podcasts. I’ll enjoy listening to more in the future. You have some amazing guests on there as well, and I’m learning a lot from you. I appreciate the great work you’re doing. I appreciate you joining us. Thanks so much for being with us. Have an amazing day.
Thanks.
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I hope you enjoyed this conversation as much as I did. Dr. Park is a true pioneer and thought leader in this space and in the field of stem cells, exosomes, and telomerase activation. He has written a book on it. Check out his books, EXOSOMES: Songs of Healing, Telomere Timebombs, and The Telomere Miracle. He goes in deep and dives into this and also shares about his own journey. You can check him out on his website as well, RechargeBiomedical.com. He has a lot of great content on there.
He has his own podcast that comes out weekly, where he explores a lot of these topics in depth as well. Check that out for yourself. Go to RechargeBiomedical.com. He also practices in 6 states, so he does travel around to 6 different states all throughout the country. If you need an exosome treatment for an injury, for brain health, or to turn back the clock on your own aging, you can connect with him for that, also. Check it out and learn some more. Do some deep diving, so you can live fully alive as long as possible. I hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll see you back here next time. Have a great day.